Man, am I behind or what...... I recall posting about the "coming soon" sign way back in May. Since that time Kirbie's even done a post on Koon Thai. I might not have even given the place a thought if not for PedMa's comments about the place. Eventually I visited, but just kinda waited on doing a post...... I'm not sure why, perhaps it was just laziness. The restaurant itself is located in the former spot of Curry House in the same mall as Sage Cake, Nijiya, Spicy House, and Okan.
I think they did a good job on the color scheme, though it is perhaps a bit too dark. I really like the mural of what else? The Koon Tree, also known as the Golden Shower Tree, the National Flower of Thailand.
I find the tables also to be a bit too small for family style eating....though I guess this encourages me to eat less.
When it's all said and done, there have three dishes at Koon that we enjoy. Unfortunately, my #1 favorite is found on the specials menu, and I've been told that it's not a permanent fixture; the Khao Kha Moo (spelled Khao Karr Moo on the menu - $7.99):
A staple of street vendors and food courts in Thailand, this Chinese influenced dish or stewed pork leg in soy sauce brings me back to Thailand....jumping off a water taxi and being carried away by the intoxicating smell of pork......
I've had this four times at Koon, and on three of them the dish has been spot on...moist, melt in your mouth tender, sweet porkiness, savory soy sauce......just delici-yoso. On my most recent visit, it was a bit dry and the flavor wasn't quite as deep. In case you need a second opinion, I took my friends Peter and Angela (and JohnL) to Koon. Since they tried this dish they've been back four times! I think Pete's worried that they may not have it on the menu any longer so he's getting his shots in while he can.
On one of my visits I asked the very nice Server, by the name of Mam where the cooks came from. Of course she replied "Thailand". After I asked whereabouts in Thailand, Issan, Lanna, Bangkok...she told me Issan, so I immediately ordered the Nam Kao Tod ($9.95), a bonafide favorite of mine. The first time I ordered this dish I requested "Thai Spicy" (that would be a 10) and the really nice young man by the name of Kef (not sure about spelling) seemed a bit worried for me...he came back twice to ask me if I was sure I wanted it that spicy. Eventually, he relented and the dish arrived.....it was about a six or seven on the Thai scale. Kef thoughtfully came back to see if I'd gone into cardiac arrest a couple of times during my meal.
Now just about everytime I see this Lao/Thai dish on the menu (and even at places like Asia Cafe where I don't) I end up ordering it. I've had it at LOS, Sang Dao, and Vientiane Restaurant in Garden Grove. Heck, I've even had in Vientiane as in the capital of Laos. This version was a bit different from what I'm used to. It's very wet, like a Larb, the prevailing flavors are the sour if lime and galangal. It is quite different, but not bad...I still love the crunch of the deep fried rice, though the strong flavors don't allow for much else to come through.
The Missus's favorite dish here is the Pla Sahm Rod ($12).
While not as good as the version at Sab E Lee in Santee, the fish is usually fried to crunchy perfection. The sauce is a bit too heavy in the tamarind department, making it a bit too far on the puckery-sour scale for our tastes. But for $12, this is a good value.
As for the rest of what I've tried:
The duck noodle soup ($6.95), was a bit weak in the anise-cassia flavor department, but had some decent heat.
The noodles were done wonderfully, but the duck was bland and mealy, and the portion size was quite small.
The duck in this dish should have warned me off the Spicy Duck Salad ($9.95), which wasn't very spicy (ordered at an eight), nor did it have much duck flavor.
The Stewed Pork Feet ($6.99) another item from the specials menu had a nice slight sweet soy sauce flavor, but the pigs feet weren't cook to the nice, tender, gelatinous texture I enjoy.
The Moo Ping (grilled pork) wasn't anything to write home about either, though the dipping sauce was nice, if a tad too sweet.
I'd have preferred the pork have more flavor and the sauce less so. The sticky rice that accompanied the dish (which is strange since this is an appetizer, how would four people, or even two share the sticky rice) was overcooked.
The Kra Pao Moo Krob (on the menu as Ka Pao Moo Krob - $9) had all of those familiar Thai flavors; the basil, sweetness, a savory fish sauce.....
The heat was nice, but on the mild side. The pork is more chewy, like a crunchy jerky, not an unpleasant texture for me. This was a decent dish, though my eating buddies, especially John didn't think too much of it.
The worse dish I had at Koon, was one that I usually use to determine the stir-fry skills of a cook. It is the deceivingly simple Pad See Ew.
This was, by far, the worst dish I had at Koon Thai. Not only was it terribly bland, but the noodles were unevenly cooked. It actually looked much more grey than the photo indicates.
Overall, other than experiencing some really bad and rude service during one visit (sorry if we interrupted your social hour young lady), service has been friendly and accommodating. This seems to be one of those places that does a couple of dishes pretty well, which is not a bad thing at all.
Koon Thai Kitchen
3860 Convoy St
San Diego, CA 92111
hopefully the service will improve.
Posted by: kat | Monday, 17 October 2011 at 10:19 PM
That first pork dish looks amazing! Haven't had a chance to drop in yet, but one of these days..
Posted by: Dennis | Monday, 17 October 2011 at 11:19 PM
I agree...Peter does want to keep eating the stewed pork before they take it off the menu.
Thank you for the suggestion.
Posted by: Ange | Tuesday, 18 October 2011 at 01:09 AM
Hi Kat - It's usually qutie good, just on those two occasions was it bad.....
Hi Dennis - It's a fairly classsic Thai dish that's everywhere in Thailand and there some good examples of it in Thai town.
Hi Ange - I know Peter wants to get his shots in! I'm hoping it becomes part of the regular menu.
Posted by: Kirk | Tuesday, 18 October 2011 at 06:44 AM
You had me at Khao Kha Moo.
I cannot wait to for my SoCal trip in December.
Things to eat in SoCal.
1. In n Out
2. Inka Mamma
3. Fukada
4. Shiensegumi
5. Langer's
6. Banh Mi
7. Sushi
8. Baja fish tacos
9. I reserve the rights to eat more...
10. korean bbq
11. korean soonduboo
Posted by: nhb | Tuesday, 18 October 2011 at 10:48 AM
Yay! Now I have some guidance on what to order. I knew this place had some special dishes- I just didn't know what. Family is wary of me ordering dishes beyond the popular Americanized ones unless I tell them "Kirk recommended it"
Posted by: kirbie | Tuesday, 18 October 2011 at 11:24 AM
Hi Billy - Only 11....that list is much too short! ;o)
Hi Kirbie - I'm sure there are more to try, but once you develop a pattern it's hard to break!
Posted by: Kirk | Wednesday, 19 October 2011 at 06:52 AM
Hi Kirk,
I had the Kaho Karr Moo at Koon today. Man it was good! I thought it was pretty good without the dipping sauce, and then when I tried it with the sauce it was excellent. They got the balance of flavors right there. I hope they keep it on the menu for a good long time, although that might not be good for everyone's cholesterol levels!
Posted by: Fred | Thursday, 20 October 2011 at 01:33 PM
Hi Fred - I'm glad you enjoyed it......I do hope they keep it on the menu.
Posted by: Kirk | Thursday, 20 October 2011 at 02:39 PM
Ped ma here, was here awhile ago...say 3-4 months or so.Close to the opening, one to three weeks..
They had a southern curry on the menu, gang som, which was quite good. Don't know if it was on the menu but worth a try. Also, might be a chef change here early on which accounts for some variation.
Another suggestion.....try Lanna, but ask for Jack. Shoot me an e-mail and I can tell you what and where etc. Hope you are well!
Posted by: PedMa | Thursday, 20 October 2011 at 09:01 PM
Hi PedMa - So you haven't been back to Koon? I'll try Lanna again, I tried the place in the past and didn't enjoy it too much..... It's always nice to hear from you!
Posted by: Kirk | Friday, 21 October 2011 at 06:49 AM
Yes, we went back a couple of times since. At Lanna,we are able to get "off the menu" items. The chef is actually from Isan, but just some typical off the menu items, Kao Kao Moo, Kao Soi, Som Tom Mahmuang. The sarong hai or bangkok steak is pretty good as every other restaurant seems to over cook it. Pad Thai Isan style might also be avialble,they do have miang kum which is pretty good as well, listed as Spinach wrap. Other than that, you are right, pretty much a falang menu.
Posted by: PedMa | Saturday, 22 October 2011 at 10:49 AM