*** As of December 2007, Da Kine's Mira Mesa has closed
I don't think it would be fair to do a plate lunch week and not include that San Diego institution Da Kine's. Nelson Ishii is pretty much the pioneer of plate lunches in San Diego, having started Da Kine's almost a decade ago. I remember seeing Nelson once at the Da' Kine's in PB when I was here for a consulting gig in the late 90's. I knew it was him because, well, everyone knew him. I said, "hey bruddah, you make a pretty good plate lunch". His response? "Uh...." as he went on his way. After we moved to San Diego in 2001, I noticed that the quality of the food had started to go downhill. And by the time I finally did a post in September of 2005, it seemed that Da Kine's had hit rock bottom. In fact, about 5 months after that post, I received an email that started with, "Wow, yoso-harsh.....". It was from the manager of the PB Da Kine's apologizing, and asking me to return. And so I put Da Kine's back on my "list". But before I had a chance to return, Da' Kine's in PB was no more. I felt I needed to keep that promise to return, so I decided on visiting Da Kine's Mira Mesa location.
It was pretty quiet on the weekend morning in May when I paid Da Kine's a visit.
In fact the Young Lady behind the counter seemed absolutely bored and going through the motions. So when she asked me what I wanted, I had no problem saying "I like Wop Yo Jaws...." She was not amused.....(BTW, "Wop Yo Jaws" doesn't meaning anything like what you may think....)
In case you didn't know, Da Kine's has named their "mixed plates" somewhat interesting names such as Da' Bugga, FOB Special, and in this case, the 3 item mixed plate is called "Wop Yo Jaws"($7.95). (You can find the real pidgin meaning here) I guess it's supposed to be funny and cute, but knowing what these phrases mean, it makes me feel strange uttering them to order a mixed plate.
This is what arrived:
I was pleasantly surprised, take a look at the photos of items I had on my previous visits and compare. It's like night and day. The Chicken Katsu at Da Kine's is pounded really thin, creating a greater batter to meat ratio, not something that I really enjoy, but it was fried to perfection. I also like the Ketchup based katsu sauce that Da Kine's uses. The Grilled Teri Chicken was hot and moist, if a bit under marinated. The Teriyaki Beef was well marinated, and fairly tender. It was a good example of "local-style" Teri Beef which is not overly sweet by nature.
I was impressed with the portion size, having been used to the ever shrinking portions at Da Kine's in PB, this was a surprise. The Macaroni Salad, as usual was pretty bland, lacking in salt, and in this case too much mayo was used, but it wasn't too bad.
Overall, this was a satisfying meal....
So still "feeling like one winnah" as I discarded my nearly cleaned plate in the trash, the indifferent young lady, asked me "how was your lunch?" I answered describing my meals at Da Kine's in PB, and how this compared, and started into a blow by blow description of what I enjoyed about the food, when I noticed the totally blank look on her face..... She really didn't, or hadn't wanted an answer to her question, it was the "question asked for which no response is desired", she had probably expected a single yes, or no answer. Yes, I am a food dork. Finally she uttered a single "uh..." As I left I thought, maybe she's related to Nelson????
Da Kine's Plate Lunches - Mira Mesa
10606 Camino Ruiz
San Diego, CA 92126
(858) 586-0606
This location (which is very close to where I live) used to be a sushi bar. I felt bad for them; every time I went in for lunch, I'd be the only one there, even during peak lunchtime.
What amuses me is that the furniture and decor is completely unchanged from when it was a sushi place.
Posted by: Fred | Thursday, 19 July 2007 at 07:41 AM
^ Hey neighbor, I live about a mile from here too.
I went in on a weekday around lunch a few weeks back and the place was packed. They probably get a lot of "Marauders" in there during the school year. Summer probably puts a damper on that action.
I agree. When I first came to San Diego, my intro to plate lunch was Da Kine's. Now I'm a junkie. Too bad the PB location crashed and burned. Hopefully Nelson can pull this one up from the bootstraps.
Anyway, I guess I'll have to go here instead of getting Dim Sum across the parking lot. ;)
http://mmm-yoso.typepad.com/mmmyoso/dim_sum/index.html
Posted by: Janfrederick | Thursday, 19 July 2007 at 08:13 AM
if they continue pouring on the food, I'm sure the restaurant won't have a problem attracting a steady clientele. Skimping on portion size has been many a restaurant's downfall, especially plate lunch food outlets. Which is basically stupid because the restaurants could as well feature "mini-size" plates, too. Btw, judging by the photos, the teri looks authentic, seeing the gristle.
Posted by: RONW | Thursday, 19 July 2007 at 06:04 PM
If I managed that location, and I read this article, I would fire that employee's ass. It probably has already happened.
Posted by: Captain Jack | Thursday, 19 July 2007 at 07:25 PM
why would anyone ever name a plate lunch "wop yo jaws"?? hehe, nonetheless, i found it to be funny :)
Posted by: Kathy | Friday, 20 July 2007 at 12:00 AM
have you been down to the Da Kine's in National City?
Posted by: Reynila | Friday, 20 July 2007 at 12:10 AM
Hmm...I'm still not sure what Wop Yo Jaw means (maybe it's better that I don't), I like the idea of the katsu that is pounded thin.
Posted by: elmomonster | Friday, 20 July 2007 at 08:41 AM
Let's put it this way, your initial reaction to the term probably caused you to Wop yo Jaw. ;)
Posted by: Janfrederick | Friday, 20 July 2007 at 08:59 AM
I only live a few miles from there, myself. But it's only another mile or two from there to Moe's (f.k.a. Da Kitchen), so while we'll give it a shot, they're gonna have to be pretty darn impressive to get us to change our default place...
Posted by: The Office Goat | Friday, 20 July 2007 at 11:12 AM
Hi Fred - That's funny...all you do is change the signs???
Hi Jan - But I was hoping you'd let me know how the other stuff on the menu is there! ;o)
Hi RONW - You're absolutely right.
Hi CJ - I thought it was more funny than anything else. After all wouldn't a teenager rather be doing something else on a weekend?
Hi Kathy - It is quite odd.....
Hi Reynila - I've been there, but not for several years.
Hi Elmo - LOL! Sort of means "I told you so!!!"
Hi TOG - I prefer Mo's...but this blog would be pretty boring if I only did Mo's! ;o)
Posted by: Kirk | Friday, 20 July 2007 at 10:41 PM
I got a loco moco. It seemed a lot smaller than what I remember. I was a little disappointed. My wife had the katsu. It was tasty, but you are right about the meat to crunch ratio.
Oh well, I need to try Moe's now.
Posted by: Janfrederick | Monday, 23 July 2007 at 10:21 AM
Hi Jan - I think you'll enjoy Mo's!
Posted by: Kirk | Monday, 23 July 2007 at 07:18 PM
LOL the girl will think twice now about asking a customer how their meal was. That ought to show her that food should be thoroughly respected! The food looked soooo yummy. I could sure go some of that anytime of day!
Posted by: Rachel | Tuesday, 24 July 2007 at 07:54 AM
Hey Kirk, me again. Guess I've also been on a plate lunch binge lately (no, I swear I'm not stalking you, really). Da Kine's was my first SD plate lunch about 8-9 years ago. As a matter of fact, I used to host Aloha Friday lunches at a company I used to work and I would get the catered lunch from Da Kine's. I've always dealt with Nelson and he's a really nice guy and always treated me well. The delivery guy was always really nice and brought extra packs of Aloha Soyu for me.
But like you said, the food started to go down hill for whatever reason. Nelson had told me they were doing a lot more catering back then so don't know if that added to it. I also had a really annoying experience at the PB location the very last time I was there (well over 6 years ago). Some lady behind the counter taking my lunch order refused to let me order 2 kalbi for my 2 item combo plate. Funny cuz I've been doing that for all the other times I was going there. It wouldn't have been a big deal except she gave me stink eye and gave me the back handed wave. Either way, it was a good thing cuz the ribs were not very good. Undermarinated, too burnt, and too grizzly.
I have yet to try the Mira Mesa location but in all honesty, would rather just drive a few more miles east to Mo's for lunch. I think the food is much better at Mo's. I don't care for flat chicken katsu (very similar to L&L's). Maybe I'll give it one more shot in the near future cuz of Nelson.
Posted by: Carol | Tuesday, 24 July 2007 at 10:20 AM
Hi Rachel - Well sometimes I tend to take questions literally...especially when it comes to food.
Hi Carol - No way....that's terrible. I kinda got the feeling that Nelson had "franchised" the PB and Mira Mesa locations....and that could account for some of the changes as well. Keep on stalking! I enjoy your comments.
Posted by: Kirk | Wednesday, 25 July 2007 at 01:35 PM
Actually, it is Nelson's fault that Da Kine's in Pacific Beach closed down. He shouldn't be "franchising" restaurants and leaving the new owners stuck with $70,000 in back taxes that they are now held accountable for because they purchased the business without being informed of these unpaid liabilities that Nelson created. The food went downhill for a while because ALL employee paychecks were bouncing ALL THE TIME!! It is not the young man's fault that took ownership of the P.B. location. He is a victim of misrepresentation and was FORCED to close down. Nelson is NOT THAT NICE.
Posted by: Lloyd | Thursday, 02 August 2007 at 05:16 AM
Lloyd,
I think that if anyone really has any questions about the closing of the PB restaurant,they should ask me......there is always two sides to every story.....It is a shame that the damage done there will be hard to recover from, but it will be. My phone number is 858-586-0606.
Posted by: Nelson | Tuesday, 21 August 2007 at 10:46 AM