Now that Southern California winter has finally hit(that is a joke folks...); I can start making my rounds of the local Pho' restaurants again. Also, in addition I though I'd try the Bun Bo Hue at restaurants that I'd only had Pho' at and visa versa. Since I was in the neighborhood I decided to stop by Pho Hoa Hiep.
Pho Hoa Hiep, located in the same Linda Vista strip mall as Vien Dong Supermarket, can be somewhat hard to find. First off, the Restaurant is located in the far Northeast corner of the mall, away from Vien Dong, and across a Coin Laundry. Second of all, there's another Pho' eatery in the same strip mall called Pho' Hoa, which can cause some confusion.
I usually have the #4 at Pho Hoa Hiep, which is the well done steak, flank, brisket, tendon, and tripe. But I had heard from Howie of A Foodie's Eye View, and he had recommended the Bun Bo Hue as well. So I decided to get the Bun Bo Hue(small-$4.75):
Bun Bo Hue is a spicy, pork and beef vermicelli noodle soup, that originated in, where else, the city of Hue. Most of the Bun Bo Hue that I've had in Orange County, San Diego, and Los Angeles have been similar in several ways; the broth has almost always been a clear, fairly light broth dotted with chili oil, with spaghetti like vermicelli noodles, and always topped with cilantro and onions. Oh yes, and one more thing. It almost always comes with jellied blood; which I usually ask to not have added to my soup. I really don't enjoy the gritty texture and metallic taste of blood.
Where Bun Bo Hue differs from Eatery to Eatery are in the garnishes. In this case a "salad" of greens, along with cross sliced jalapenos and a wedge of lime accompanied my soup:
And of course the shrimp paste with chili oil is another staple of Bun Bo Hue, I use it to dip my meat in, and to flavor my noodles and broth.
So how was this? The broth was nice and light, and though there looked to be alot of chili oil in the broth, it was not as spicy as I expected it to be. The noodles were "cut" into short strands, but that made it much easier to eat. The noodles also were a bit on the mushy side.
The meat in Bun Bo Hue usually includes a thick cut "brisket" slices or other well flavored beef, as well as either a pig's feet or thick slice of pork leg. Pho Hoa Hiep delivered several slices of beef with a good amount of tendon, but overall quite tasteless. However, the slice of pork "leg" was very tasty and quite soft. Still, a pretty good bowl of Bun Bo Hue.
I also ordered the Goi Cuon(spring rolls - $2.80):
The spring rolls were "longer" then what I'm used to; almost 7-8" in length. Both the flavor of mint and a fairly large amount of shredded pork were very prominent as I took the first bite. These spring roll were much improved over my last visit.
During my latest visit, I reverted back to form and ordered a bowl of Pho'. Though this time I went with the extra large bowl of "Dac Biet"($4.75):
The Pho' broth at Pho Hoa Hiep, is much lighter and less "oily" then most other Pho' Shops, and very balanced in flavor. In many cases the flavor of ginger, anise, or cloves may stand out in a broth, at Pho Hoa Hiep, the flavor is slightly beefy, and you are really able to taste the pungent peppery-citrusy cilantro and the scallions. People who enjoy the Pho' at Pho Hoa Hiep call it "refreshing". I'm not quite sure if that's a particularly apt description, but there's one thing for sure; the Pho' here really depends on the garnishes:
Which includes lemon(?), bean sprouts, basil, and surprise(!) ngo gai(hallelujah). I rarely see ngo gai(saw-leaf herb) served with Pho in San Diego, so having it available is always a treat. Ngo gai has a taste much like a more pungent cilantro. Today, it really added nothing; I tore off a piece and had a taste, and it was much more "soapy" in flavor then what I'm used to. I added all the basil, ngo gai, and bean sprouts to my bowl of pho'. The noodles were the customary pho' noodles, clumped up in a bunch at the bottom of the bowl.
As for the meats, I now remember why I usually don't get the "rare steak" at Pho Hoa Hiep - it is extremely tough and dry. The tendon slices though, are cut to a nice width, and both crunchy and somewhat gelatinous to the bite.
Overall, not a bad bowl of Pho' and also not a bad price. Between Convoy Noodle House and Pho Hoa Hiep; I'd say it's a wash. Pho Hoa Hiep is also a bit cheaper. If you'd like to see what Bun Bo Hue in Vietnam looks like; Noodlepie has an example on his wonderful Blogsite that looks nothing like any bowl of Bun Bo Hue I've ever had. MEalcentric took a trip to Vietnam in August of last year and also did a post, and even posted photos. I've come to a conclusion regarding Pho' and Bun Bo Hue. Though many of the ingredients are the same, no two restaurants taste the same. I guess I'll just say "Pho', it's a state of mind"........
Pho Hoa Hiep
6947 Linda Vista Road
San Diego, CA 92111
9910 Mira Mesa Blvd
San Diego, CA 92131
It is pouring with rain in Sydney, and now I am hankering for Pho. ACK
Posted by: clare eats | Monday, 16 January 2006 at 09:10 PM
I too am in "soup mode" these days. Have you ever been in a kitchen at a pho restaurant? I've always wondered how/where they cook all that broth. I can't imagine how many gallons they go through a day.
Posted by: Jack | Monday, 16 January 2006 at 11:34 PM
I have always wondered if the pho would be the same here in oz as over there in the US. My mission I think is to find out and compare!
When you say standard pho noodles, are they rice vermicelli like the one I see in your Dac Biet? In Aus, good fresh pho noodles are very slippery and smooth, and like hor fun but thinner in width (about 1/4 inch). When fresh, they slide down your throat accompanied by the beefy broth. *Drool* I am missing it so much! The combination soups are often with beef balls and the tendonous areas are sliced very thin like the raw beef that is par cooked by the time it reaches your table.
Sadly, over here in Aus, a good bowl of pho is fast reaching about $8 or 9 dollars for the standard size. But pho hits the spot sometimes like nothing else can, hence, I am still shelling that out sometimes for yummy pho :)
Posted by: Rachel | Tuesday, 17 January 2006 at 12:23 AM
Hello Kirk!
The Goi Cuon looks really nice, how's the sauce?
Posted by: thess | Tuesday, 17 January 2006 at 05:40 AM
I think the pho noodles we get here are not the same as the ones used in Vietnam. I wonder why that is?
Posted by: Jo | Tuesday, 17 January 2006 at 07:42 AM
Hi Clare - Hope it clears up soon & you get your bowl.
Hey Jack - I've "peaked" into the kitchen at Phuong Trang - and there were huge cauldron sized pots on the stoves.
Hi Rachel - Yes, those noodles are about standard, though some are a bit wider.
Hi thess - The sauce was just ok? I like mine a bit thicker.
Hi Jo - I'm pretty sure the noodles are different as well; but I haven't a clue as to why.
Posted by: Kirk | Tuesday, 17 January 2006 at 08:41 AM
Kirk,
I am drooling as I stare at the pictures. When I was first introduced to pho it was served with flat noodles, but then again it was at a friends house. It is rare to run across the flat noodle pho. There are places here that serve it, but most serve the rice sticks (spaghetti like noodles).
Speaking of the Bun Bo Hue, the first time I tried it with the congealed blood. I could not eat it, but luckily a friend and I switched dishes. Whenever I order the dish I have to ask for no blood. *shudder* Funny enough I can eat Korean Blood sausages though...Hmmm
Posted by: milgwimper | Tuesday, 17 January 2006 at 10:14 AM
Pho Ca Dao on El Cajon Blvd always gives you the ngo gai leaves.
I've always wondered what they were--I like them.
Posted by: Jenne | Tuesday, 17 January 2006 at 10:39 AM
Ahh soup! Like everyone's said, this is prime soup weather.
Excellent pics and review Kirk!
Posted by: elmomonster | Tuesday, 17 January 2006 at 02:27 PM
Oh my! Blood in the soup? And yeah, it does look spicy!! I get extra mild myself. ;) The spring rolls look delish with the orange/pink coming out from the shrimps housed within...yum!
Posted by: Kristy | Tuesday, 17 January 2006 at 03:00 PM
Hi, Kirk and all!
Pho Hoa Hiep has become my "go to" place for pho. The thing I like the most about it is that the consistency of the meat in the pho is almost always very tender. It seems like one drawback to a lot of pho places is the meat is tough and rubbery. I actually remember one place where I tugged so hard at the pork foot that I lost my grip and it flew across the table. You don't have to worry about that sort of thing at Pho Hoa Hiep.
That's kind of strange that they served lemon with the pho. It's always been lime when I go there, maybe there was a lime shortage that day?
Yet again, your post has made me hungry. Maybe I'll grab some pho...
Posted by: howie | Tuesday, 17 January 2006 at 06:37 PM
Hi Mills - I really don't care for the taste and texture of blood in the state that it is served, so it's just a personal preference.
Hi Jenne - Haven't been to Ca Dao on ECB, everytime I passed there people waiting outside. Hopefully, I'll be able to eat there soon. Ngo Gai is quite rare in San Diego.
Hi Elmo - Thanks! It really is soup weather.
Hi Kristy - The Bun Bo Hue wasn't really all that spicy, at least for me. The piece of pork shank in the Bun Bo Hue was really good. I don't care for blood in this dish either.
Hi Howie - Funny thing, during two previous visits(forgot my camera) I got lime with my Pho' so I don't know what happened. I enjoy all of the meat with the Pho' except the rare steak, which I find really tough, at least the two times I had in the Pho'. I do think the tendon and tripe are good. I've put Pho Hoa Hiep in as my breakfast Pho' restaurant, I like the lighter, yet tasty broth for breakfast.
Posted by: Kirk | Tuesday, 17 January 2006 at 07:25 PM
Hi Kirk,
You know, I really love a good bowl of pho, especially when it rains. It's funny because I didn't really care for it much years ago.
That said, the next time you come "home" to visit, you really must visit Pho 97. It's my favorite Vietnamese restaurant in the islands. I'd be interested in hearing how it compares to some of the places there.
Posted by: Reid | Friday, 20 January 2006 at 01:33 AM
Hi Reid - I'll make sure to add Pho' 97 to my ever growing list.
Posted by: Kirk | Friday, 20 January 2006 at 09:20 AM
Try Ca Dao, I really like it the best of any pho restaurants I've tried here, but then again it was the first place I ever had it so I could be biased.
I also really like their egg rolls served with lettuce and mint, SO GOOD, and also their garnishes are always perfectly fresh and crisp.
The World Market behind it is a great place to get really good cheap seafood and produce, and one of the few places in SD that sells chicory coffee.
By the way, I love this blog; you must live near me because we go to a lot of the same places.
Posted by: Jenne | Friday, 20 January 2006 at 05:46 PM
Hi Jenne - I'll put Ca Dao on my list; I'll have to go a bit early because every time I've tried to go there it's been busy. Thanks again for your comments and recommendations!
Posted by: Kirk | Friday, 20 January 2006 at 09:30 PM
As a fellow Pho-whore, I have also toured San Diego and much of the L.A. area in search of the perfect bowl of Pho. Your reviews are well-written, entertaining and pretty much right on. There are two Pho spots in San Diego you haven't mentioned: Pho Pasteur off of Mesa College and the 163, and Pho Saigon, East of 15 on ECB (past Pho van).
If you ever make it up to L.A., you must try Pho Hong Long on Crenshaw Blvd, 2 miles East of 405 (right by El Camino College) To my taste, it is the best Pho I have ever had.
Keep up the good work in your quest for Fantastic Pho.
Posted by: Shadd | Tuesday, 13 March 2007 at 12:40 PM
Hi Shadd - Welcome and thanks for the kind words. I've been to both places; I'm not a big fan of the Pho or Bun Bo Hue at Saigon....the Pho is especially not to my taste...to much star anise. I haven't been to Pho Pasteur in quite a while...last time I went there, Pho Tau Bay was still there.
Posted by: Kirk | Tuesday, 13 March 2007 at 07:38 PM
I agree about Saigon - not the best Pho. Pasteur is OK, but the quantites of noodles and meat was lacking.
I have now returned as a regular to my very first Pho experience - Pho Hoa Hiep. The place has really grown up since I first ate there in 2003. I now eat there about twice a week as everything I have tried there is very good. My picky roommate even requests it.
Pho on.
Posted by: Shadd | Wednesday, 17 October 2007 at 07:37 PM
OK, now I'm feeling like a reporter of restaurants coming and going! The Pho Hoa Hiep on Mira Mesa Blvd is no longer there; it's been replaced by a kabob restaurant.
Posted by: Sandy | Thursday, 18 October 2007 at 08:15 AM